Part of key topic Unskillful Qualities
8. “Can you offer some more suggestions about dealing with sleepiness when it is very strong?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] // [Postures] [Energy] [Posture/Walking] [Posture/Standing] [Wat Pah Nanachat]
Story: An hour walking, an hour standing, and an hour sitting. [Wat Sai Ngam (Suphanburi)] [Monastic routine] [Ajahn Pasanno]
5. “As mindfulness has increased, I find fighting drowsiness directly can empower it. I’m drawn to stepping into the experience, feeling the strong pull into mental proliferation, and gently grounding the mind back into stronger physical feeling. I slip in repeatedly but find that I can eventually make the mind stable and bright. Is this a handy strategy or a more long-term approach in knowing and dismantling the hindrances?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Mindfulness of body] [Hindrances] // [Craving not to become]
18. “Thank you for your patience and assistance to fearlessly enter the dark an untamed forest of our minds. What or how would you suggest in terms of habits and practices that we may skillfully observe or interact with the sleepy mind?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] // [Mindfulness of breathing] [Continuity of mindfulness] [Posture/Lying down]
Quote: “Did you fall asleep on the in-breath or the out-breath?” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah]
Story: Ajahn Pasanno places glasses of water around his body to cultivate mindfulness while sleeping. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Determination] [Rains retreat] [Mindfulness]
8. “Sometimes I experience what one of my teachers has called a multiple hindrance attack. For me this manifests as sloth and torpor and restlessness, feeling as if they are arising simultaneously. Sloth and torpor may be primary; I’m not sure. Any wise words?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Hindrances ] [Sloth and torpor] [Restlessness and worry] // [Doubt] [Skillful qualities] [Unskillful qualities] [Pāli]
1. “I’m feeling spacious in my heart. it is pleasant, and then I get sleepy. Can you advise on how to cultivate interest in spaciousness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Spaciousness ] [Sloth and torpor] // [Perception of light] [Mindfulness of breathing] [Continuity of mindfulness]
6. “Can brightness of mind and fatigue coexist? Is mental fatigue a defilement?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Energy] [Sloth and torpor] [Unwholesome Roots]
Story: Ajahn Pasanno felt mental fatigue while preparing for Ajahn Chah’s cremation yet had a bright mind. [Ajahn Chah] [Funerals] [Ajahn Pasanno] [Merit]
9. “Meditation is work. Sometimes I’m very tired, can’t think, can’t hear, can’t sit, can’t sleep; I just show up and breathe. How are you doing? What keeps you going? I’m so touched with your generous presence, patience, and deep commitment.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Meditation] [Sloth and torpor] [Mindfulness of breathing] [Ajahn Pasanno] [Energy] [Gratitude] // [Not-self] [Relinquishment]
Quote: “There’s only two things you need to do in Dhamma practice: know and let go.” — Ajahn Chah. [Ajahn Chah] [Mindfulness]
12. “I’m having alternating intense periods of spaciousness and intense periods of agitation and sleepiness. Can you speak to this? I seem to identify very strongly with both states. It takes some time before I see the dukkha. I feel a bit hopeless about identification and the possibility of relinquishing it or even getting some relief from it. Any guidance would be appreciated.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Spaciousness] [Restlessness and worry] [Sloth and torpor] [Self-identity view] [Noble Truth of Suffering] [Relinquishment] // [Cause of Suffering]
Simile from Ajahn Chah: A gardener’s duty is to prepare the soil and protect the tree. The fruit appears according to the nature of the tree. [Ajahn Chah] [Agriculture] [Similes]
5. “Can you please describe how you experience the breath when your awareness is strong and balanced? How specifically do you use the breath when the mind is dull?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Mindfulness of breathing] [Sloth and torpor] // [Energy] [Visualization] [Tranquility] [Happiness] [Perception of light]
3. “Can you speak more about posture? I’ve noticed when fatigued and I slump a tad, my breath seems to be most noticeable and stuck at the slump. Also, when I notice my body pulsating, should I allow movement or hold steady?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Posture/Sitting ] [Sloth and torpor] [Mindfulness of breathing] [Meditation/Unusual experiences] // [Rapture] [Right Effort] [Energy] [Tranquility] [Mindfulness of body] [Body scanning]
1. “What’s the difference between sleep and sloth and torpor?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] // [Bhikkhu Bodhi] [Translation] [Devotion to wakefulness] [Craving not to become]
Story: Ajahn Pasanno’s first meditation retreat: “You’ve been stealing sleep!” [Ajahn Pasanno]
Story: After Ajahn Pasanno’s illness, he needs to sleep an hour more. [Sickness]
2. “Is laziness more aversion than sloth and torpor?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Aversion] [Sloth and torpor] // [Pāli] [Energy]
4. “Is it okay to do standing meditation in here during meditation sessions when nothing else is working for sleepiness or restlessness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Posture/Standing] [Sloth and torpor] [Restlessness and worry]
2. “Which of the three unwholesome roots is most prominent when the mind is lazy?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Energy] [Unwholesome Roots] [Sloth and torpor] // [Delusion]
4. “I seem to make a virtue of laziness and don’t quite believe the teachings about doing without food and sleep. Do you have any advice for me?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Ascetic practices] // [Skillful qualities] [Unskillful qualities]
5. “When I look at neutral objects, dullness often arises. Is this suffering?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Feeling] [Contact] [Sloth and torpor] [Unskillful qualities] [Suffering] // [Craving not to become] [Delusion] [Ignorance] [Mindfulness] [Clear comprehension]
Comment by Ajahn Jotipālo: Lack of desire is not enlightenment. [Desire] [Liberation]
5. “How does one work with dullness and drowsiness in sitting meditation?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Posture/Sitting] // [Hindrances] [Ajahn Buddhadāsa] [Ajahn Chah] [Posture/Walking] [Culture/Natural environment] [Posture/Standing] [Continuity of mindfulness]
Sutta: AN 7.58 Capala Sutta: “Are you nodding, Moggallana?” [Great disciples] [Sloth and torpor]
Story: Ajahn Pasanno walks in the forest without a flashlight to dispel drowsiness. [Ajahn Pasanno] [Dtao Dum] [Sloth and torpor] [Devotion to wakefulness]
3. “Could constant movement like Luang Por Teean’s technique be useful for drowsiness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Ajahn Teean] [Movement meditation] // [Continuity of mindfulness]
9. “Sometimes I’ve been sitting a long time and am too tired to keep sitting, walk, or stand. Any suggestions?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Postures] [Devotion to wakefulness] [Sloth and torpor] // [Ajahn Pasanno] [Pain] [Posture/Standing]
8. “How do you know if sloth and torpor are present or if you’re just plain tired? When is it better to rest the mind or the body than to meditate?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor ] // [Gladdening the mind] [Energy] [Posture/Walking]
12. “It’s been years since I needed to do so much laying down meditation. My back is not cooperating this retreat. Can you refresh my memory on tricks to not fall asleep? Eyes open feels as if I struggle to maintain it.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Posture/Lying down] [Sloth and torpor]
11. “Is it a good remedy to sit with eyes open when afflicted with sloth and torpor? Standing? Any other ideas?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor ] [Posture/Sitting] [Posture/Standing] // [Buddho mantra] [Three Refuges] [Perception of light] [Mudra]
Quote: “With sloth and torpor, we want to give the mind enough work so that it can engage itself in the activity of meditation.” [Sloth and torpor ] [Energy]
3. “What are antidotes to the strained, tired mind?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Sloth and torpor ] // [Directed thought and evaluation] [Skillful qualities] [Mindfulness of body] [Mindfulness of breathing]
Sutta: MN 19: Dvedhavitakka Sutta, Two Kinds of Thought.
2. “Could anyone give examples of how to apply the enlightenment factor of pīti when the mind is sluggish?” Answered by Ajahn Ñāṇiko and Ajahn Pasanno. [Rapture] [Sloth and torpor] // [Ajahn Mahā Boowa] [Gladdening the mind] [Investigation of states]
9. Comment: Sometimes I find applying awareness exhausting. [Mindfulness] [Sloth and torpor]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Tranquility] [Faith]
1. “I’ve been struggling with sleepiness while trying to meditate, having the intention to be present and aware, but finding myself dozing off.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Clear comprehension] [Meditation retreats] // [Conditionality] [Lay life] [Craving not to become] [Directed thought and evaluation]
Story: Ajahn Boon Choo meditates through tiredness after staying up for days. [Ajahn Boon Choo] [Kaṭhina] [Wat Pah Pong] [Sloth and torpor] [Energy] [Devotion to wakefulness] [Ardency]
Quote: “The boundaries we set for ourselves are oftentime much smaller than what we can actually deal with, work with, or be with.” [Self-identity view] [Clinging] [Patience]
4. “If a hindrance comes up, one thing to do is to acknowledge it and observe it, but on the other hand, one can bring up its opposite. Do you do either depending on what is needed? Sometimes when I bring up the opposite, it prevents me from seeing it.” Answered by Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Sloth and torpor] [Right Effort] [Hindrances]
12. Comment: Exercise in the morning can be used to overcome sloth. [Exercise] [Sloth and torpor] [Energy]
Response by Ajahn Pasanno. [Ajahn Pasanno]
13. “I notice that the calmer my mind becomes, the more imperceptible my breath is – to the point of feeling a suspension of breathing and at times a complete cessation. This sometimes seems to lead to sleepiness and torpor. How can I bring my mind back to a state of focus without manipulating my breath?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Mindfulness of breathing] [Sloth and torpor]
1. “Is sleepiness not dullness? Is there a separation?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Jotipālo. [Sloth and torpor] // [Translation] [Concentration]
8. “How does renunciation reinforce compassion?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Jotipālo. [Renunciation ] [Compassion ] [Sloth and torpor] // [Suffering] [Clinging] [Goodwill] [Right Intention]
Sutta: Snp 1.8: The Metta Sutta.
1. “What are exercises for laypeople to overcome laziness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Lay life] [Sloth and torpor] // [Recollection/Buddha] [Recollection/Dhamma] [Recollection/Saṅgha] [Community] [Pandemic] [Online community]
4. “I have trouble maintaining wakefulness and alertness in the afternoon. What guidance would you give to cultivate more skillfulness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Devotion to wakefulness] // [Buddho mantra] [Recollection] [Unattractiveness] [Posture/Walking] [Posture/Standing]
2. “When I go inward, I don’t feel or experience brightness. Instead it/I feel heavy. How can I get to that brightness?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] [Gladdening the mind] [Rapture] // [Relinquishment] [Hindrances] [Devotional practice]
12. “When I meditate in a cold, open area, my mind goes to sleep. What do you suggest?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Sloth and torpor] // [Posture/Sitting] [Hindrances]
2. “You mentioned more of the physical remedies to reduce drowsiness, but if there is mental fatigue or lack of joy, how could we bring up more energy?” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno and Ajahn Karuṇadhammo. [Sloth and torpor] [Energy] // [Investigation of states] [Recollection] [Chanting] [Posture/Walking] [Clear comprehension] [Culture/West]
7. “What approach do you take when someone is snoring in the Dhamma Hall?” Answered by Ajahn Amaro. [Sloth and torpor] [Meditation]
14. “I am interested to hear more about the qualities of wholeheartedness. You mentioned that the English language does not have a word that captures it. There’s something that can go from non-attachment/dispassion to apathy, which is not helpful in the world.” Answered by Ajahn Pasanno. [Language] [Relinquishment] [Dispassion] [Sloth and torpor] [Impermanence] // [Disenchantment] [Skillful qualities] [Pāli] [Conditionality] [Abhidhamma]
Suttas: Suttas: AN 6.10, AN 10.2: The cascade of well being.